Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/12/2006 08:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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Presentation by Bond Raters Regarding
Tobacco Bond Issuance
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8:05:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 243                                                                                                        
     "An  Act relating  to the  financing of  construction, major                                                               
     maintenance,   and   renovation   of  facilities   for   the                                                               
     University  of   Alaska;  relating   to  the   financing  of                                                               
     construction  of a  correctional  facility; authorizing  the                                                               
     commissioner  of revenue  to  sell the  right  to receive  a                                                               
     portion   of  the   anticipated  revenue   from  a   tobacco                                                               
     litigation    settlement    to    the    Northern    Tobacco                                                               
     Securitization Corporation,  with the proceeds of  that sale                                                               
     to finance  construction, major maintenance,  and renovation                                                               
     of facilities  for the University  of Alaska and  to finance                                                               
     the construction  of a correctional facility;  providing for                                                               
     the establishment  of funds for  deposit of  those proceeds;                                                               
     authorizing the  issuance of bonds  by the  Northern Tobacco                                                               
     Securitization Corporation for the  purpose of acquiring the                                                               
     right to  receive a  portion of  anticipated revenue  from a                                                               
     tobacco   litigation  settlement;   and  providing   for  an                                                               
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:05:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
This was the second hearing for this bill in the Senate Finance                                                                 
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                   Presentation by citigroup                                                                                    
                               on                                                                                               
                     Tobacco Bond Issuance                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DALE ANDERSON, citigroup/ Smith Barney, introduced the                                                                          
presenters. Citigroup is the leader in tobacco settlement                                                                       
securitization and has been involved since 1999.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:07:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM RATTIGAN, Regional Banker for Northwest and Alaska,                                                                         
citigroup, introduced Mr. Haddon.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:09:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM   HADDON,  Managing   Director  of   Tobacco  Securitization,                                                               
citigroup,  gave  a  presentation   utilizing  a  packet  titled,                                                               
"Presentation  to:  The  State   of  Alaska,  Tobacco  Settlement                                                               
Revenue Securitization  Update, April  12, 2006" [copy  on file].                                                               
References are not all made in sequential order.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:09:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Completed Tobacco Securitizations                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     71 completed issues totaling over  $34 billion in par amount                                                               
     since 1999.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     [US map  highlighting the dates, amounts  and percentages of                                                               
     Securitizations   Completed,  Securitization   Pending,  and                                                               
     Legislation  Introduced status  of  states, US  territories,                                                               
     counties and cities.                                                                                                       
     Notations  indicate   that  a  percentage  of   the  Tobacco                                                               
     Settlement  Receipts  (TSR)  generated   by  the  states  of                                                               
     California  and  New  York are  allocated  to  counties  and                                                               
     certain cities.  Amounts or percentages  of TSR  are pledged                                                               
     for  the  states  of Alabama,  Arkansas  and  North  Dakota.                                                               
     States not a party to  the Master Settlement Agreement (MSA)                                                               
     are identified.]                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon outlined the information on this map.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:10:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Secondary Market Trading (2003 - 2006)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [Line graph  showing Secondary Market Trading  and Yield (%)                                                               
     of   the  5.5   percent   Northern  Tobacco   Securitization                                                               
     Corporation Series  2001 Maturing 2029, and  the 30-Year MMD                                                               
     "AAA", for  selected months from  March 2003 to  March 2006.                                                               
     Pertaining legal actions are noted  on the timeline, as well                                                               
     as  the  dates  bond raters  downgraded  unenhanced  tobacco                                                               
     securitization bonds.  A notation reads,  "Yields calculated                                                               
     as  volume-weighted averages  based  on  MSRB daily  trading                                                               
     data."]                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon stated  this graph is indicative of the  status of the                                                               
yield in the  current market of the Alaskan bonds  issued in 2001                                                               
and maturing in 2029.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon pointed  out the  200 basis  point change  in tobacco                                                               
rate yield  variations from  8.5 percent  to 5.5  percent between                                                               
March 2003  and March 2006.  This is  a "very event  risk" market                                                               
that  is subject  to media  reports  of consumption,  significant                                                               
"factor  determination  concerning nonparticipating  manufacturer                                                               
adjustment",   and  litigation   against   the  industry.   These                                                               
occurrences  cause   the  market  to  fluctuate   as  the  market                                                               
evaluates the security.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon noted  the 30-year AAA MMD provides  a baseline market                                                               
analysis. "Rates have drifted down  in tobacco" and therefore now                                                               
is an opportune time to consider a tobacco securitization.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:11:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson requested the witness  explain acronyms as they are                                                               
used in the presentation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:12:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  defined "triple  A"  as  the highest  credit  rating                                                               
possible, 30-year as  the term of maturity, and  MMD as Municipal                                                               
Market  Data. Secondary  market trading  reflects the  buying and                                                               
selling of  the Alaska Northern Tobacco  Securitization Corp bond                                                               
issued in the year 2001.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:12:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan  furthered  the  amount  the  State  pays  for  the                                                               
securitization on  the bonds is  not impacted. That rate  was set                                                               
at  the  date of  issuance  in  2001. This  information  reflects                                                               
activity  in  the secondary  market  as  buyers and  traders  are                                                               
selling and buying the bonds after the initial offering.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:13:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     2005 Tobacco Market Overview                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        · In 2005, the market for tobacco securitization bonds                                                                  
          continued to be shaped by three primary factors:                                                                      
             o Large cash positions of high-yield / tobacco                                                                     
               investors                                                                                                        
             o Market supply of various types of high-yield                                                                     
               bonds                                                                                                            
             o Investor    perception    of   tobacco    industry                                                               
               creditworthiness,     litigation     risk,     and                                                               
               consumption risk                                                                                                 
        · In early 2005 (after a year with no tobacco                                                                           
          securitization  issuance),  large   cash  positions  of                                                               
          tobacco investors  (specifically, municipal  high yield                                                               
          funds)   and   an  improving   litigation   environment                                                               
          provided   a  favorable   backdrop   for  new   tobacco                                                               
          securitization issuance                                                                                               
        · At the end of 2005, we witnessed a softening secondary                                                                
          market,   with   decreased   tobacco   trading   volume                                                               
          occurring                                                                                                             
             o Less hype over potential tobacco refundings                                                                      
             o Investors somewhat more credit cautious given the                                                                
              developments in the Grand River case                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Thirteen  tobacco  securitizations  were  completed  in                                                               
          2005 for a total of $6.1 billion in par amount.                                                                       
             · $4.5 billion refunding                                                                                           
             · $1.6 billion new money                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     And                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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     2006 Tobacco Market Outlook                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        · New tobacco securitization issuance has continued in                                                                  
         2006, and there is a building forward calendar                                                                         
        · Cash positions in high yield funds remain robust, and                                                                 
          we believe demand continues to  exceed new supply. This                                                               
          was witnessed  in the successful sale  of $1.75 billion                                                               
          of tobacco securitization bonds during the week of                                                                    
          January 30 alone, and an additional $530 million                                                                      
          brought to market year-to-date                                                                                        
        · Institutions who have approved the tobacco credit                                                                     
          continue to be buyers, and favorable yields and market                                                                
          outlook continue to attract new investors                                                                             
        · Despite recent developments regarding the Brattle                                                                     
          Group's  determination in  the NPM  Adjustment process,                                                               
          investors appear relatively  comfortable in the current                                                               
          market  environment,  and  market volatility  has  been                                                               
          minimal                                                                                                               
        · Tobacco market conditions and investor demand remain                                                                  
          favorable                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        Over $2.2 billion of unenhanced tobacco securitization                                                                  
        bonds have been issued year-to-date.                                                                                    
          · $1.6 billion refunding                                                                                              
          · $600 million new money                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        Currently,   litigation   and    NPM   (Non-Participating                                                               
        Manufacturer) Adjustment risk are the most significant                                                                  
        credit concerns in the tobacco securitization market.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon stated that no  tobacco securitizations were completed                                                               
in  2004 due  to significant  litigation  underway involving  the                                                               
State  of  Illinois  and  Phillip  Morris,  Inc.  A  $13  million                                                               
judgment was assessed  against Phillip Morris in this  case. As a                                                               
result  the company  threatened to  file bankruptcy  proceedings,                                                               
which caused  volatility in  the market.  The market  improved in                                                               
2005  and rates  dropped. Several  deals  were made  in 2005,  as                                                               
buyers became  more interested  in tobacco  securitization bonds.                                                               
The improvements continued in 2006.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:14:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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    Recent Secondary Market Trading (February - April 2006)                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [Line  graph  showing Yield  (%)  of  5.5% Northern  Tobacco                                                               
     Securitization  Corporation   Series  2001   Maturing  2029,                                                               
     Recent  "BBB"  Rated  Tax-Exempt Capital  Appreciation  Bond                                                               
     Pricing, and  30-Year MMD "AAA",  for various  dates between                                                               
     February 1,  2006 and  April 5,  2006. Pertinent  events are                                                               
     indicated. A notation reads, "Yields calculated as volume-                                                                 
     weighted weekly averages based on MSRB daily trading data.]                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  noted the  minimal volatility of  the market  in 2006                                                               
not withstanding  issues involving a  potential Non-Participating                                                               
Manufacturers  (NPM) Adjustment.  He explained  this pertains  to                                                               
whether the  Master Settlement Agreement (MSA)  was a significant                                                               
factor   in  the   market  share   loss   of  the   Participating                                                               
Manufacturers (PMs). The Brattle  Group, an econometric firm, has                                                               
been examining this  matter and released a  preliminary report on                                                               
March 2 opining  that the MSA was a significant  factor. On March                                                               
27  the  final  report  was  issued.  Despite  this,  the  market                                                               
conditions are favorable for issuers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:15:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     NPM Adjustment: Overview                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        · The Non-Participating Manufacturer (NPM) Adjustment,                                                                  
          measured  by  domestic  sales of  cigarettes  by  NPMs,                                                               
          operates to  reduce the  payments of  the Participating                                                               
          Manufacturers  ("PMs")  under   the  Master  Settlement                                                               
          Agreement  ("MSA")  in the  event  that  the PMs  incur                                                               
          losses in market  share to NPMs during  a calendar year                                                               
          as a result of the MSA                                                                                                
        · Three conditions must be met in order to trigger an                                                                   
          NPM Adjustment for one or more Settling States:                                                                       
             o (1) the aggregate market share of the PMs in any                                                                 
               year must  fall more  than 2% below  the aggregate                                                               
               market share  held by  those same  PMs in  1997 (a                                                               
               condition that  has existed  for every  year since                                                               
               2000)                                                                                                            
             o (2) a nationally recognized firm of economic                                                                     
               consultants must determine  that the disadvantages                                                               
               experienced as  a result of the  previsions of the                                                               
               MSA were a significant  factor contributing to the                                                               
               market share loss for the year in question, and                                                                  
             o (3) the Settling States in question must be                                                                      
               proven  to  not  have  diligently  enforced  their                                                               
               Model Statutes                                                                                                   
        · The NPM Adjustment is applied to the subsequent year's                                                                
          Annual Payment  and Strategic Contribution  Payment and                                                               
          the decrease  in total funds  available as a  result of                                                               
          the NPM Adjustment is then allocated on a Pro Rata                                                                    
          basis among those Settling States that have been                                                                      
          found:                                                                                                                
             o (i) to have not diligently enforced their Model                                                                  
               Statutes, or                                                                                                     
             o (ii) to have enacted a Model Statute or                                                                          
               Qualifying Statute that is declared invalid or                                                                   
               unenforceable    by   a    court   of    competent                                                               
               jurisdiction                                                                                                     
        · The MSA provides that the amount of an NPM Adjustment                                                                 
          applied to any Settling State  in any given year cannot                                                               
          exceed the amount of  Annual and Strategic Contribution                                                               
          Payments to be received by  such Settling State in such                                                               
          year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        The market for tobacco securitization bonds may be                                                                      
        affected in upcoming months by recent developments                                                                      
        relating to the "NPM Adjustment".                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon informed  that the  NPM Adjustment  could potentially                                                               
impact Alaska on  two levels: the amount received  in the payment                                                               
due  April 17,  2006,  and  the condition  of  the bonds  already                                                               
issued  as  well  as  the   20  percent  of  the  settlement  not                                                               
securitized.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  explained the NPM Adjustment.  A tobacco manufacturer                                                               
has two options: join  the MSA, or be a NPM  and submit an escrow                                                               
payment  to the  State based  on the  amount of  cigarettes sales                                                               
made in  the state.  He outlined  the conditions  in which  a NPM                                                               
Adjustment could be made, which  could decrease the amount of the                                                               
payments the PMs must remit.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon informed  that  the  PMs have  begun  a procedure  to                                                               
achieve  a NPM  Adjustment.  A greater  than  two percent  market                                                               
share loss  since 1997 has  occurred and subsequently,  PMs could                                                               
withhold a  portion of their  payments due  in April or  make the                                                               
full payment and seek a NPM Adjustment for future payments.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon also  noted  the  determination must  be  made as  to                                                               
whether  the State  diligently enforced  the MSA.  A standard  of                                                               
diligent enforcement has yet to  be established and would require                                                               
either a  court decision  or binding  arbitration. The  PMs favor                                                               
binding  arbitration,  while  the Settling  States  prefer  court                                                               
involvement. Meanwhile, the manufacturers  must decide whether to                                                               
withhold partial payment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon reported that the market was "very concerned about                                                                   
this", although the market has not shown significant volatility                                                                 
as a consequence of these possible occurrences.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:19:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     NPM Adjustment: Recent Developments                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
         · In May 2004, the Settling States and the PMs selected                                                                
           The Brattle Group as  the firm of economic consultants                                                               
           responsible  for   making  the   "significant  factor"                                                               
           determination regarding  the Market Share Loss  of the                                                               
           PMs for calendar year 2003                                                                                           
         · On March 2, 2006, the Brattle Group issued its                                                                       
           preliminary  finding that  the MSA  was a  significant                                                               
           factor contributing  to the  Market Share Loss  of the                                                               
           PMs   for   calendar   year  2003   (the   preliminary                                                               
           determination  was challenged  by the  Settling States                                                               
           and  additional  arguments/information were  submitted                                                               
           to The  Brattle Group for consideration  in connection                                                               
           with its final decision)                                                                                             
         · On March 27, 2006, The Brattle Group announced its                                                                   
           final  determination that  the MSA  was a  significant                                                               
           factor contributing  to the  Market Share Loss  of the                                                               
           PMs for calendar year 2003                                                                                           
         · If the Original Participating Manufacturers ("OPMs")                                                                 
           claim an NPM  Adjustment for 2003 in  April 2006, such                                                               
           OPMs may  either make an appropriate  deposit into the                                                               
           Disputed   Payments   Account  or   withhold   payment                                                               
           reflecting  the claimed  NPM  Adjustment, which  could                                                               
           have  a materially  adverse  impact  on the  available                                                               
           amount   of  tobacco   settlement  revenues   ("TSRs")                                                               
           flowing to Settling States                                                                                           
         · The Settling States have reserved the right to                                                                       
           commence  an enforcement  action  for compliance  with                                                               
           the MSA. It  has been reported that a  majority of the                                                               
           Settling  States have  sent  a notice  to  the PMs  of                                                               
           their intent to commence  such an action, including an                                                               
           action seeking a declaratory  order that regardless of                                                               
           the  "significant factor"  determination, the  PMs are                                                               
           not  entitled  to  an  NPM  Adjustment  because  those                                                               
           Settling States have been diligently enforcing their                                                                 
           Qualifying Statutes                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         There can be no assurance as to the amount of any NPM                                                                  
         Adjustment or the corresponding reduction in TSRs                                                                      
         payable to the Settling States.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  shared that Phillip  Morris submitted its  payment in                                                               
advance of the April deadline.  That manufacture occupies over 50                                                               
percent of the  marketplace. RJR has submitted  a partial payment                                                               
and whether final payment would be withheld is unknown.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:20:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     NPM Adjustment: April 2006 Payment                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        · Assuming no NPM adjustment, the April 2006 payment due                                                                
          has been reported to be approximately $6.5 billion                                                                    
        · The OPMs have requested the Independent Auditor for                                                                   
          the MSA to reduce its  calculation of the expected 2006                                                               
          payment by  $1.14 billion plus  interest (approximately                                                               
          $1.2 billion  total) to account for  the NPM Adjustment                                                               
          for 2003                                                                                                              
             o Assuming a $1.2 billion NPM Adjustment, the                                                                      
               impact to TSRs flowing to the State would be as                                                                  
               follows:                                                                                                         
                    Assumed NPM Adjustment: $1.2 billion                                                                        
                    State Allocation Percentage: 0.3414187%                                                                     
                    Decrease in Total TSRs Flowing to the State:                                                                
                         100.000%: $4,097,024                                                                                   
                    Decrease in Amounts Available for Series                                                                    
                         2000 Bonds: 40.000%: $1,638,810                                                                        
                    Decrease in Amounts Available for Series                                                                    
                         2001 Bonds: 40.000%: $1,638,810                                                                        
                    Decrease in Non-Securitized TSRs:                                                                           
                         20.000%: $819,405                                                                                      
        · On March 31, Philip Morris reportedly made a full                                                                     
          payment; RJR made a partial payment                                                                                   
             o Assuming Philip Morris' share was approximately                                                                  
               50%, this would suggest an NPM Adjustment of up                                                                  
               to $600 million; in this case, the impact to TSRs                                                                
               flowing to the State would be as follows:                                                                        
                    Assumed NPM Adjustment: $1.2 billion                                                                        
                    State Allocation Percentage: 0.3414187%                                                                     
                    Decrease in Total TSRs Flowing to the State:                                                                
                         100.000%: $4,097,024                                                                                   
                    Decrease in Amounts Available for Series                                                                    
                         2000 Bonds: 40.000%: $1,638,810                                                                        
                    Decrease in Amounts Available for Series                                                                    
                         2001 Bonds: 40.000%: $1,638,810                                                                        
                    Decrease in Non-Securitized TSRs:                                                                           
                         20.000%: $819,405                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
               There can be no assurance as to the amount of any                                                                
               NPM Adjustment or the corresponding reduction in                                                                 
              TSRs payable to the Settling States.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon indicated the information on this page explains the                                                                  
potential impact of a NPM Adjustment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:20:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Preliminary Financing Results                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        · Scenarios 1 and 3 of the following page assume a full                                                                 
          refunding  of  State's  Series  2000  and  Series  2001                                                               
          Tobacco Settlement Asset-Backed Bonds, respectively                                                                   
             o Scenario 1 allows State to achieve $114.5 million                                                                
               in upfront new money net proceeds                                                                                
             o Scenario 3 allows State to achieve $106.5 million                                                                
               in upfront new money net proceeds                                                                                
        · Scenarios 2 and 4 assume the Series 2000 and 2001                                                                     
          Bonds  remain outstanding.  The Series  2006 Bonds  are                                                               
          structured on  a subordinate basis  to the  Series 2000                                                               
          and  2001   Bonds,  respectively.  In   the  respective                                                               
          scenarios,  no  revenues  will be  available  for  debt                                                               
          service on  the Series  2006 Bonds until  the currently                                                               
          outstanding bonds are fully repaid                                                                                    
             o Scenario 2 allows State to achieve $90 million in                                                                
               upfront net proceeds                                                                                             
             o Scenario 4 allows State to achieve $87.8 million                                                                 
               in upfront net proceeds                                                                                          
        · Though the bonds in each scenario have a stated                                                                       
          maturity  of   2060,  with  their   turbo  amortization                                                               
          structure  they are  projected to  be  fully repaid  by                                                               
          2041 in Scenarios 1 an d3, and 2040 in Scenarios 2 and                                                                
          4                                                                                                                     
             o Shortening the final planned amortization date of                                                                
               the  refunding scenarios  to  that  of the  Series                                                               
               2000  and 2001  Bonds (2015)  allows the  State to                                                               
               achieve   approximately   $20   million   from   a                                                               
               refunding   of   the   Series  2000   Bonds,   and                                                               
               approximately $12 million from  a refunding of the                                                               
               Series 2001 Bonds                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon noted this explains the opportunities for the State                                                                  
to generate additional revenue in 2006.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:20:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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     Preliminary Financing Results                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     State  of  Alaska  Tobacco  Settlement  Asset-Backed  Bonds,                                                               
     Series 2006, Scenario Summary as of 4/10/2006                                                                              
     [Spreadsheet listing  Delivery Date  and % of  TSRs Pledged;                                                               
     then calculating  Initial Par, less  (OID)/Premium, equaling                                                               
     Gross Proceeds;  less COI  and Underwriter's  Discount, Debt                                                               
     Service Reserve,  Capitalized Interest,  Escrow Cost  net of                                                               
     Debt  Service Fund,  and  Operating  Expenses, plus  Release                                                               
     from Series 2000 and 2001  SDR, totaling Net Proceeds to the                                                               
     State; Final  Maturity and Final Planned  Amortization dates                                                               
     are listed,  as well as Cost  of Capital and Yield  on Final                                                               
     Maturity  percentages   for  Scenario   1:  New   Money  and                                                               
     Refunding of Series 2000 Bonds;  Scenario 2: New Money Only:                                                               
     CABs Subordinate to  Series 2000; Scenario 3:  New Money and                                                               
     Refunding of  Series 2001 Bonds;  and Scenario 4:  New Money                                                               
     Only: CABs Subordinate to Series 2001.]                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon outlined the four scenarios. The first would generate                                                                
the most money possible, over $14 million. Scenario 3 employs                                                                   
the same structure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:22:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon clarified  he considered Scenarios 1 and  3 to involve                                                               
restructuring rather than refunding,  because the bonds would not                                                               
be  refunded "purely  for economical  savings" but  would instead                                                               
extend debt.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  hypothesized leaving the  Series 2000 and  2001 bonds                                                               
outstanding and "only try to  wrap new money around" those bonds,                                                               
saying  the  new bonds  must  be  "subordinate" to  the  existing                                                               
bonds.  A zero  coupon  structure would  be  required because  no                                                               
revenues would be  received until the payment of  the Series 2000                                                               
and 2001  bonds were fully  paid off. No interest  payments would                                                               
be made during that period.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon stated that if a  zero coupon structure were used, the                                                               
State could generate  $90 million subordinate to  the Series 2000                                                               
bonds, and $87  million subordinate to the Series  2001 bonds, to                                                               
total approximately  $180 million. These would  be "leveraged out                                                               
to  the  maximum   amount"  the  bonds  could  be   sold  in  the                                                               
marketplace.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:23:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked  the  earnings of  the  Series  2000  bonds                                                               
without the "wrapping of new money".                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:24:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  replied that the  State has already issued  the bonds                                                               
and received  payment so the  State would generate  no additional                                                               
funds. The projected payoff of those bonds is 2015.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:24:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde surmised the proposal  is to refinance these bonds.                                                               
He asked if the same bonds could be sold twice.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:24:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  clarified that  a new  set of  bonds would  be issued                                                               
with a portion  of the proceeds deposited into  an escrow account                                                               
to service  the debt of  the Series 2000 bonds.  Technically, the                                                               
first bonds  would no longer have  claim to the TSRs  and the TSR                                                               
funds would then be "freed up"  and available for debt service on                                                               
the new bonds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  pointed out the  spreadsheet details that  the Escrow                                                               
Cost net  of Debt Service Fund  would be deducted from  the gross                                                               
proceeds.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:26:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde   commented  that  each  time   citigroup  becomes                                                               
involved  in the  sale or  refinance  of these  bonds, the  State                                                               
incurs  a  cost. He  therefore  questioned  how the  State  would                                                               
generate additional income from the scenarios posed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:26:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon responded  that  rates  are lower,  and  the time  is                                                               
opportune  to participate  in the  marketplace.  The State  would                                                               
generate $114 million net of all  fees on the refunding of Series                                                               
2000 bonds.  This is  a market opportunity  and is  not required.                                                               
Currently, the  State would  resume retention  of TSR  funds when                                                               
the current bonds mature.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:27:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  understood the current  timing is optimal  due to                                                               
activity in the market.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:27:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Haddon  affirmed.   He  informed   that  this   market  has                                                               
volatility, evidenced  in 2004 when  the market "shut  down". The                                                               
market is "open  now". He could not guarantee  whether the market                                                               
would close  again in the future,  whether significant litigation                                                               
would  be decided  against the  tobacco industry  or against  the                                                               
Settling States  of the MSA. The  State "did the right  thing" in                                                               
selling off the TSR  risk in 2000 and 2001. If  the State were to                                                               
decide to repeat the action, this would be an ideal time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:28:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde estimated the cost  of undertaking the action posed                                                               
in  Scenarios 1  or  3 would  be  approximately $100,000,000.  He                                                               
based this on  the Gross Proceeds amount of  almost $212 million,                                                               
less  the  multiple  deductions,  totaling  approximately  $114.5                                                               
million Net Proceeds to the State.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:29:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon clarified that $90  million of the Gross Proceeds must                                                               
be provided  as escrow  for the original  bond issuances.  A debt                                                               
service reserve  must also  be provided. These  are not  costs to                                                               
the  State, but  rather necessary  to  refund the  2000 and  2001                                                               
Series bonds.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan pointed  out that  once  the Series  2000 and  2001                                                               
bonds  were  refunded,  the  TSR  would  no  longer  need  to  be                                                               
dedicated  to their  repayment and  would be  "freed" to  pay the                                                               
debt service on the new bonds.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:29:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  when  refund  00 bonds,  not  longer  using  tobacco                                                               
revenues.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:30:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked the cost to the State of Scenario 1.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:30:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon listed transactions costs  of approximately $2 million                                                               
[actual amount shown on spreadsheet is $2,800,831].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:30:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  understood the Series  2000 bonds  are currently                                                               
scheduled to  be paid off  in 2015 and  if no changes  were made,                                                               
the State  would have  the ability to  appropriate the  TSR funds                                                               
after that date.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:31:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon responded  that  2015 is  a target  date  but is  not                                                               
certain. The  target date would  be achieved if  tobacco revenues                                                               
"come in"  as projected. At  the full amortization of  the Series                                                               
2000 bonds,  the 40 percent  of TSR  pledged to the  repayment of                                                               
those bonds would revert to the State.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:31:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  the amount  anticipated annually  and the                                                               
total amount over time.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:32:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  indicated he  would calculate  the amounts.  He noted                                                               
the State would resume retention of the TSR funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:32:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman ascertained  the issue  as deciding  whether the                                                               
State needs  revenues from  the TSR  immediately with  no further                                                               
TSR revenues  until 2060;  or to receive  no revenue  until 2015,                                                               
but  resume collection  of  TSR  at that  time.  The question  is                                                               
whether  receipt  of  $114  million   this  year  would  be  more                                                               
advantageous.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:33:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon affirmed Senator Hoffman's assessment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  informed  that  bonds  secured  with  TSRs  have  an                                                               
expected payment date and a  stated payment date. The Series 2000                                                               
bonds are targeted  to pay off in 2015 with  a stated maturity of                                                               
2031. The proposed  bonds of Scenario 1 have  stated payment date                                                               
of 2060 and an expected payment  date of 2041. He would therefore                                                               
compare the  2015 payoff date of  the Series 2000 bonds  with the                                                               
proposed expected  payoff date  of 2041 of  Scenario 1  bonds. He                                                               
agreed that the  refunding of the original bonds  and issuance of                                                               
new bonds would extend the debt a number of years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon explained  that by issuing new bonds,  the State would                                                               
receive a  present value  payment of future  TSRs. If  no changes                                                               
were made  and the  original bonds  paid out  in 2015,  the State                                                               
would begin  collecting revenue  from the TSR  although not  in a                                                               
"lump sum". If the  Series 2000 bonds do no pay  out in 2015, the                                                               
State would  not receive TSR  revenue until the bonds  were fully                                                               
paid.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon identified  the policy question as  whether to receive                                                               
the funding  "up front" based  on projections that could  be sold                                                               
in the current  marketplace; or to accept annual  payments in the                                                               
amount based  on annual consumption  once the original  bonds are                                                               
repaid.  That amount  could be  significantly lower  than current                                                               
projections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:34:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   countered  that  the  amount   could  also  be                                                               
considerably higher.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:35:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  agreed this was  possible. If  so and new  bonds were                                                               
issued, those bonds would be paid off sooner.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:35:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  commented to the  question of whether  the State                                                               
should capitalize on the TSR at  a time of surplus, or wait until                                                               
oil prices  are down and  revenue is  needed. A proposal  that is                                                               
"attractive  today" could  also  be  worth consideration  several                                                               
years  in  the future.  This,  plus  how  the revenues  would  be                                                               
expended, are the policy discussions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:36:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde identified  a third topic for  policy discussion as                                                               
the  worth of  the "price  of  doing business".  The State  would                                                               
"give up a lot" by having  use of the revenues immediately rather                                                               
than allowing the settlement to "play out".                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:37:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  the benefits  of  refunding and  reissuing                                                               
stocks at this time, and the benefits of making no changes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:37:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  gave   the  favorable  market  as   the  reason  for                                                               
undertaking this now. Interest rates  are relatively low compared                                                               
to previous  years and  the market is  "willing to  accept" these                                                               
bonds, meaning the  bonds would be saleable. In  2004, the market                                                               
was  not favorable  and  similar  bonds could  not  be sold.  The                                                               
question is whether  the market would be favorable  in the future                                                               
for  later  bond   issuances.  Tobacco  settlement-secured  bonds                                                               
represent a small portion of the bond market.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon continued  that the  State could  make no  changes at                                                               
this time  if officials predicted that  tobacco consumption would                                                               
continue at the current level, the  funds were not needed at this                                                               
time, and  receipt of future  annual payments in  unknown amounts                                                               
was deemed acceptable.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:39:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked  the amount the Series 2000  and 2001 bonds                                                               
were sold.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:39:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  replied  that he  would  provide  this  information,                                                               
surmising  the  amount  of  the   proposed  sales  would  not  be                                                               
substantially different. Current rates  are less than one percent                                                               
or 100 basis points  lower than they had been at  the time of the                                                               
original  offerings.  Refunding  the  existing  bonds  would  not                                                               
result  in a  significant savings.  Therefore, he  considered the                                                               
proposals to be more of a restructuring.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:40:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman calculated  that the  State would  generate $114                                                               
million  on the  Series  2000 bonds  by  extending the  potential                                                               
earnings from 2015 to 2060.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:40:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  affirmed; clarifying  the target  payoff date  of the                                                               
Scenario 1 bonds is 2041.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:41:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the  returns would  not be a  result of                                                               
previous interest  rates of 8.5  percent compared to  the current                                                               
rate of 5.5 percent as reflected on the graph on Page 5.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:41:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  noted the Series 2000  bonds were not sold  at a rate                                                               
of  8.5 percent.  The  graph instead  demonstrated  the rates  in                                                               
which the secondary bond  market, i.e. tobacco settlement-secured                                                               
bonds, has traded over time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon stated  that if the maturity of the  Series 2000 bonds                                                               
was held at  the 2015 target date and new  bonds were sold "doing                                                               
a  straight refunding",  the State  would net  $20 million  after                                                               
escrow  costs  to restore  the  original  bonds were  paid.  This                                                               
amount  is  significantly  less than  the  amount  projected  for                                                               
Scenario  1 and  demonstrates that  approximately $80  million of                                                               
the $114 million would be generated  as a result of extending the                                                               
debt.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  qualified that  if  the  situation involved  general                                                               
obligation bonds  rather than  TSR secured  bonds, and  the State                                                               
could  save  $20 million,  or  ten-percent,  through a  refunding                                                               
process, the State would likely  undertake the process. Receiving                                                               
an upfront payment of debt service  cost of ten percent is "above                                                               
the normal threshold that states look to do refundings for."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:43:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan addressed  refunding versus  "new money".  "Freeing                                                               
up" the tobacco  revenues currently dedicated to  the Series 2000                                                               
and 2001  bonds would allow for  issuance of bonds that  would be                                                               
"more desirable by the market."  These are current interest bonds                                                               
that "pay  regular interest" and  "come at a much  lower interest                                                               
rate" than the zero coupon  bond structure that would be required                                                               
if the refunding was not done.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rattigan suggested  that if a "new money  target project list                                                               
of a  certain dollar  amount" was agreed  upon, the  refunding of                                                               
the existing bonds  could allow for the issuance of  new bonds at                                                               
a  lower interest  rate. Significantly  less  zero coupon  bonds,                                                               
which are  more expensive and  generate lower proceeds,  would be                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 8:44:14 AM / 8:44:33 AM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman understood  that  $20 million  would be  derived                                                               
from the release  of the Series 2000 and 2001  bonds if the State                                                               
restructured the bonds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:45:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  corrected that  the State  would receive  $20 million                                                               
under a straight  refunding scenario with a  targeted maturity of                                                               
2015.  The  existing  bonds  have an  $11  million  debt  service                                                               
reserve account  and the  new bond scenario  would require  a $14                                                               
million debt service reserve. The  $3 million difference would be                                                               
utilized to pay off the bonds at their maturity.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:45:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan   noted  that  the  handout   referenced  for  this                                                               
presentation  does not  include  a  straight refunding  scenario.                                                               
This  presentation is  based  on the  assumption  that the  State                                                               
would intend to generate more than $20 million.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:46:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  referenced conversations  about the  benefits of                                                               
shifting risks given  the uncertainty of future  TSR payments and                                                               
the  potential  that  tobacco  manufacturing  corporations  could                                                               
dissolve.   He   requested   financial   information   on   these                                                               
corporations,  including international  activities, Standard  and                                                               
Poor ratings  and the bond and  stock ratings of other  firms, to                                                               
help determine possible insolvency.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:47:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon replied that rating  agencies carry ratings on all the                                                               
major  tobacco   companies.  However,  those  companies   do  not                                                               
comprise   the  full   component  of   the  TSR.   Small  tobacco                                                               
manufacturers  also contribute.  Philip  Morris, Inc.  represents                                                               
approximately 50 percent of the  marketplace and has been awarded                                                               
a weak BBB rating by Standard and Poor.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon also  pointed out  that the  payments per  the Master                                                               
Settlement   Agreement   are   based  on   domestically   shipped                                                               
cigarettes  and  do not  involve  the  international markets.  In                                                               
evaluating  the  security of  Philip  Morris,  only the  domestic                                                               
subsidiary  of  the  company  could  be  considered.  RJR,  Inc.,                                                               
formally  Reynolds Tobacco,  is rated  below investment  grade by                                                               
the  major rating  services. The  third largest  tobacco company,                                                               
Loews,  is  a larger  conglomerate  involving  more than  tobacco                                                               
manufacturing. It  is therefore  difficult to isolate  the rating                                                               
of just its tobacco operations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon stated  that  the highest  rating  TSR secured  bonds                                                               
could  receive  is  BBB.  By  considering  the  solvency  of  all                                                               
participating  manufacturers, the  rating  agencies consider  the                                                               
revenue  stream  for  these  bonds  slightly  stronger  than  the                                                               
individual companies.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:49:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  surmised that the  market place  already factors                                                               
the  current financial  scenario  of  the settlement  agreements.                                                               
Therefore, an imminent demise of the corporations would be                                                                      
reflected in current ratings.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:50:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 18                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Tobacco Securitization Credit Risks                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     [Flow  Chart showing  the interrelationship  between Tobacco                                                               
     Securitization  Credit  and  Non-Participating  Manufacturer                                                               
     (NPM)   Adjustment   Risk;   Decreased   Market   Share   of                                                               
     Participating     Manufacturers;      Litigation     Against                                                               
     Participating   Manufacturers;   Legal   Risks   to   Master                                                               
     Settlement    Agreement;    Bankruptcy   of    Participating                                                               
     Manufacturers; and Uncertainty of Future Consumption.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon directed attention to this page to demonstrate the                                                                   
risks.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:51:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Market Share of PMs and NPMs                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     [Spreadsheet listing Historical Market Shares as follows:                                                                  
          OPMs                                                                                                                  
               1998 - 96.5%                                                                                                     
               1999 - 92.3%                                                                                                     
               2000 - 91.4%                                                                                                     
               2001 - 89.4%                                                                                                     
               2002 - 86.1%                                                                                                     
               2003 - 84.5%                                                                                                     
               2004 - 83.75%                                                                                                    
          SPMs                                                                                                                  
               1998 - 3%                                                                                                        
               1999 - 3.9%                                                                                                      
               2000 - 5.2%                                                                                                      
               2001 - 6.2%                                                                                                      
               2002 - 7.2%                                                                                                      
               2003 - 7.4%                                                                                                      
               2004 - 7.5%                                                                                                      
          NPMs                                                                                                                  
               1998 - 0.5%                                                                                                      
               1999 - 3.7%                                                                                                      
               2000 - 3.5%                                                                                                      
               2001 - 4.4%                                                                                                      
               2002 - 6.7%                                                                                                      
               2003 - 8.2%                                                                                                      
               2004 - 8.75%                                                                                                     
          Source:   "Opinion   And    Order   Partially   Denying                                                               
          Preliminary   Injunction"  in   02  Civ.   2939  (AKH),                                                               
          September   14,  2004,   Alvin  K.   Hellerstein,  U.S.                                                               
          District Judge,  United States  District Court  for the                                                               
          Southern District of New York.]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          · NPMs pay into an escrow and do not contribute to the                                                                
             payments flowing to Settling States                                                                                
          · Increasing NPM market share means less money flowing                                                                
             to Settling States                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon stated  this page demonstrates how  market shares have                                                               
changed   with  an   increasing   market  share   going  to   the                                                               
nonparticipating manufacturers. An increase  in NPM decreases the                                                               
amount of revenue generated from the  MSA because NPM do not make                                                               
payments into the MSA. This is a risk of holding the TSR.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:51:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon returned to the flow chart  on Page 18 to speak to the                                                               
significant litigation  against tobacco  manufactures. Individual                                                               
suits  are filed,  with occasional  large judgments  made against                                                               
the  manufacturers.  Class action  suits  have  also resulted  in                                                               
large  judgments  against  the industry.  Such  continued  losses                                                               
could result in financial duress to manufacturers.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon furthered that the  Master Settlement Agreement itself                                                               
is  being challenged  on "two  major fronts."  Small manufactures                                                               
are challenging  the MSA  arguing it  is an  anti-trust agreement                                                               
resulting  in restraint  of  trade. If  one  of these  challenges                                                               
prevailed, the MSA could be  "disrupted" and the requirement that                                                               
the PMs make payments could be "decoupled".                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon explained  the other  challenge is  "consumption risk                                                               
going forward."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:53:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  remarked  that  these  bonds  are  not  insured                                                               
against default  for the purchaser.  The purchaser would  have at                                                               
least  as much  information  about  the MSA  as  the State  does.                                                               
Therefore, he  surmised the purchaser  would adjust  the purchase                                                               
price to reflect the perceived risk levels.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:53:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  affirmed, replying  this is  the reason  the interest                                                               
rates are  higher yielding than  general obligation  bonds. There                                                               
is  no insurance  on  tobacco bonds  and  the purchaser  requires                                                               
higher payment for assuming the risk.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:54:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan  added  that volatility  of  the  secondary  market                                                               
trading is  not only  interest rate  movement, but  also includes                                                               
"tobacco event occurrence"  that caused the risk  to be perceived                                                               
as  higher. The  market evaluates  events that  could affect  the                                                               
securitization  stream  and  adjusts accordingly  either  in  the                                                               
secondary  market  or in  the  primary  market, which  issued  no                                                               
tobacco securitization bonds in 2004  because the risk was deemed                                                               
too high to be compensated by higher interest rates.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:55:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  understood that the  higher the risk  level, the                                                               
larger   the  discount   the  State   must  concede   to  attract                                                               
purchasers. The  larger discount would  result in less  income to                                                               
the  State in  the future.  He concluded,  "It's not  a zero  sum                                                               
gain."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:55:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:55:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon referenced the line graph  on Page 5 to point out that                                                               
the  variance  between the  "general  municipal  market" and  the                                                               
secondary  tobacco securitization  market  is currently  minimal,                                                               
indicating the  market is  favorable for  selling new  TSR bonds.                                                               
The  interest rate  is  determinative of  the  discount paid  "to                                                               
present  value these  payment streams".  The higher  the interest                                                               
rate,  the  bigger the  discount  factor,  but would  impact  the                                                               
amount of revenue received "up front" for the State.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon characterized  this as a situation in  which the State                                                               
could  make  no  changes  and  receive the  TSR  funds  once  the                                                               
existing bonds  have matured  in an amount  higher or  lower than                                                               
current payments.  The State could  instead, refinance  the bonds                                                               
and receive the funds immediately.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  concluded that if new  bonds were sold and  the State                                                               
received  the  revenue  "up  front"  and  if  the  long-term  TSR                                                               
revenues were lower  than projected, the State would  have "got a                                                               
good deal". If  the TSR revenues were higher  than projected, the                                                               
bonds  would  be paid  off  sooner  and  the State  would  resume                                                               
collecting the revenues earlier,  albeit later than the repayment                                                               
date of the existing bonds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:58:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan  commented  that   in  securitizing  the  TSRs  and                                                               
receiving money up front, the bondholder is assuming the risk.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:59:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked the impact on  the State's bond rating in the                                                               
event of a "catastrophic event" involving the MSA.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:00:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rattigan  replied that such  an event should have  not affect                                                               
on Alaska's credit  ratings. Bond raters recognize  the TSR bonds                                                               
are no reflection of the State's solvency.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:00:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  what actions  other states  were taking  in                                                               
this regard.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:00:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  referred back to  Page 4 and  the US map  listing the                                                               
completed and  pending tobacco securitizations of  all states and                                                               
some   counties  and   cities.  Other   states  are   considering                                                               
restructuring existing bonds and issuing new bonds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:01:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan  noted  that approximately  three-quarters  of  the                                                               
"deals" done  in 2005  and 2006 have  been refundings  of earlier                                                               
offerings.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:02:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  asserted  that  the market  is  favorable  for  such                                                               
activities. Alaska would  not be required to do  refunding of its                                                               
existing bond offerings.  New bonds could be  sold, although this                                                               
would require  additional legal  restructuring. These  are policy                                                               
issues the  legislature must  decide to  determine the  length of                                                               
extension.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon stated  he would  provide  additional information  to                                                               
address questions raised during this presentation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked  the amount that citigroup would  earn if the                                                               
State undertook  the refinancing  of existing bonds  and issuance                                                               
of new  bonds. He also asked  the net return that  the holders of                                                               
the existing bonds would realize.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:04:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  responded  that  if   the  Series  2000  bonds  were                                                               
restructured,  the bondholders  would  receive  payment from  the                                                               
escrow account. The "security character"  of those bonds would be                                                               
changed, as  the TSR revenues  would no longer be  the guarantee.                                                               
These bonds would have higher value.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon continued  that the bondholders would  have the option                                                               
to redeploy "that  money" into the new bonds.  As an underwriter,                                                               
citigroup would  attempt to have  the Series 2000  bondholders to                                                               
purchase the  new bonds at  a higher interest rate.  However, the                                                               
bondholders would not be required to do so.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:05:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson again  asked  the  rates and  the  net return  the                                                               
bondholders would receive.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:05:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  stated that citigroup  could sell new bonds  at lower                                                               
rates, with the  bondholders obtaining bonds with  a lower yield.                                                               
The  escrow  guarantee  on  the   existing  bonds  would  provide                                                               
incentive to purchase the new bonds.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:06:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rattigan furthered  that the holder of Series  2000 bonds, if                                                               
purchased at the initial offering  would receive a return rate of                                                               
approximately  six percent.  If the  initial bonds  were sold  at                                                               
present  in  the  current  market,   a  higher  gain  of  "a  few                                                               
percentage points"  would be realized  based on the value  of the                                                               
bonds at the time of sale.  The bondholders would not be required                                                               
to sell the bonds.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rattigan  continued that  the return on  the new  bonds would                                                               
not be  set until they were  sold and would be  determined by the                                                               
market. The  new bonds would likely  have a lower rate  of return                                                               
than  the existing  bonds. A  regular market  exists for  tobacco                                                               
bonds,  those  issued  by  all  participating  states  and  local                                                               
governments. The  return on  the original  Alaska bonds  that had                                                               
been traded  would be  dictated by  the market  rate at  the time                                                               
they were traded.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:08:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson expressed that the  witnesses did not answer any of                                                               
his questions.  He again  asked how much  the company  would earn                                                               
from these transactions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:09:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon told of an  underwriting discount, spread, or fee paid                                                               
on tobacco  bonds. The  underwriting fee on  bonds sold  for $216                                                               
million would  be approximately $1.2  million. If  citigroup were                                                               
the lead  underwriter, it would  expect to receive  fifty percent                                                               
of the fee, or $600,000.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:09:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson reposed  his second question asking  the amount the                                                               
bondholders  could  potentially  realize  if the  State  were  to                                                               
refund  existing bonds  and  issue  new bonds.  He  asked if  the                                                               
amount would be $5 million, $10 million or another amount.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:10:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  responded that the  value of the bonds  is determined                                                               
by interest  rates. The  value of  the Series  2000 bonds  at the                                                               
time of initial purchase was  low because the interest rates were                                                               
high.  As  interest  rates  decreased, the  value  of  the  bonds                                                               
increased.  The  increased  value  of the  bonds  would  only  be                                                               
realized  if the  bonds were  sold when  the interest  rates were                                                               
lower.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon continued that Series  2000 bonds would actually trade                                                               
at an  amount higher than  100 cents on  the dollar if  the State                                                               
restructured  because  the original  bonds  would  have a  higher                                                               
security.  However, the  bonds would  generate  a lower  interest                                                               
rate  and  those  bondholders  could   chose  to  redeploy  their                                                               
investment into the new bonds,  which would pay a higher interest                                                               
rate.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:12:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Stedman  stated   that  the   $2.8  million   "COI  and                                                               
Underwriter's  Discount"  deduction   from  "Gross  Proceeds"  in                                                               
Scenario 1 shown on  Page 16 is "the cost of  doing the deal". He                                                               
asked  how  the  amount  designated for  the  escrow  account  is                                                               
determined,  and whether  the amount  is  an estimate  or a  firm                                                               
figure.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:13:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  answered that the  escrow amount is not  an estimate.                                                               
It is calculated,  for Scenario 1, from the debt  service owed on                                                               
the Series 2000  bond deal for the "call date".  The call date is                                                               
the date when  the bonds could be retired. The  escrow account is                                                               
established to  make the interest  payments to the call  date and                                                               
provide principle to retire the  bonds. The original terms of the                                                               
Series 2000  bonds provided that  the bonds could be  "called in"                                                               
on "certain terms"  and therefore the call date  would be defined                                                               
by those  requirements as well  as the debt  service requirements                                                               
on those  bonds. An independent accountant  does this calculation                                                               
to ensure  accuracy. This is  a legal requirement and  the amount                                                               
must be calculated to the "penny".                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:14:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman asked if no reinvestment risk would be incurred.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:14:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rattigan responded that no  reinvestment risk would exist for                                                               
the  escrow,  due  to  the  requirement  that  the  account  have                                                               
sufficient  funds. Tobacco  securitization contains  many "nuance                                                               
and complications".  The escrow  and refunding components  are no                                                               
different than any refundings the State  has done in the past. He                                                               
gave  airport bonds  as  an  example in  which  older bonds  were                                                               
refunded to achieve a savings.  Those older airport bonds are now                                                               
guaranteed by an  escrow account and no longer have  any claim to                                                               
airport revenues. At  the time of pricing, a  deposit is required                                                               
in an  amount verified  by an independent  accounting firm  to be                                                               
sufficient.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:15:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman asked  if escrow  funds would  be set  aside and                                                               
would collect interest.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon affirmed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  asked how  all interest  rate exposure  would be                                                               
removed.  The escrow  account  would  be held  for  years if  not                                                               
decades.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:16:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Haddon  replied that  the escrow funds  would be  utilized to                                                               
purchase  federal government  securities guaranteed  by the  U.S.                                                               
Treasury Department or other federal  agencies. The interest rate                                                               
of  those securities  would  be fixed  and  the income  generated                                                               
would  be  calculated  to  determine  the  amount  of  securities                                                               
necessary  to pay  the  principle and  interest  payments on  the                                                               
original bonds.  The escrow account  is required before  the TSRs                                                               
could be pledged for new bonds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:17:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  understood the issue  of buying zero  coupons or                                                               
government backed  bonds. He  asked about  the imbedded  costs of                                                               
establishing and administering the escrow account.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:18:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Haddon  answered  that  the escrow  account  would  have  no                                                               
embedded cost. The securities "will  cost what they cost based on                                                               
the current market".  The $88 million cited for  Scenario 1 could                                                               
change with  interest rates over  next couple weeks. This  is the                                                               
risk of delaying the transaction.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rattigan  told  of  the   requirement  that  the  securities                                                               
purchased  to fund  the escrow  "are bid  out to  the market"  to                                                               
ensure that  the State  has achieved  the "best  possible price."                                                               
Bond council  would also provide  a "defeasance  opinion" avowing                                                               
that  the  Series 2000  bonds  were  officially defeased  and  no                                                               
longer  have  the  right  to   receive  TSR  payments  they  were                                                               
originally secured by.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:19:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  suggested  the witnesses  meet  with  interested                                                               
Committee members  individually to  address concerns  and respond                                                               
to questions.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:19:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The bill was HELD in Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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